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CUSTOMER CERTIFICATION STATUS
Since Decertifcation for anything other than Safety is not in the NFPA regulations, it means that you can use OOP motors as long as you are NOT carrying your NAR or TRA membership card in your back pocket. Leave it at home if you want to fly OOP. Decertfication for other than Safety ONLY reasons is a NAR policy which only applies to NAR members participating in NAR sanctioned launches. NAR policy cannot trump or override state laws, which NFPA regulations are in most cases, except at NAR sanctioned launches and NAR members. It's really pretty simple. IF you are a member of a NAR club, ask your club to consider a NON-NAR launch. - Terry Dean |
| U.S. ROCKETS ON CERTIFICATION LISTS |
| 1993 Joint NAR-TRA Certification List TRA Certification 1984-1997 DOT Classificaton 1986 - does not expire NAR Certification List 1987 384k NAR Decertification 1994 NAR Certification List 1997-2000 TRA Decertification 1997 California Classificaton 1999 - TRA Experimental - USR approved AIM Certification 2000-2003 |
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Subject: Where are these uncertified motors?? I may be opening a can of worms here, but where are all of these "uncertified" motors? I am a NAR member, but I'm an independent flier. The only regulations I have to follow are federal, state, and local regulations because they're the law, and I don't break the law. Basically I don't care if a motor is certified or not. Now I like Aerotech motors and am for the most part perfectly happy flying rockets under level1, but I am not happy that I am restricted to what I can use by organizations that have no authority to restrict my activities in any way. Now don't get me wrong, NAR/TRA are generally good for the hobby and their rules are in place for a reason, and their safety record is impeccable. However, I want options and I don't have them and that irritates me and I'm sure that I'm not alone. Now I know most people don't respect this viewpoint, but I will stack my safety record up against anybody's because I take it seriously. I would like to continue to expand my horizons in this hobby MY WAY, without doing something dangerous like making my own motors (I don't possess the knowledge to do it safely). Otherwise, I fear that I'll lose interest and give it up, and that means a loss of a fairly substantial investment in rockets, hardware etc and losing one of the truly great family activities that we and others enjoy immensely. That's unacceptable. - Jim (give me the motors) Sibley 8-00 |
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Subject: Re: Where are these uncertified motors?? I agree. I firmly believe that our organizations should not be in the business of reducing our options. I also have concerns about how TMT went from certifying motors, to certifying manufacturers. Hobby organizations should not be an enforcement branch of the government. Ray Dunakin 8-00 U.S. Rockets Firestarter-tm powering Ray's camera rocket. |
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